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    • Since the old one is full, just talk here for Survivors The Final Battle and the dogs

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    • After The Exile's Journey, what do you think will happen in The Final Battle? What will happen to Storm? The Wild Pack? Sweet and Lucky's leadership? etc

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    • This is a little of topic but can any of you check out my blog? I wrote a story on there and wonder if any of you want me to continue it. Thanks!

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    • Twilight the Sandwing-Nightwing wrote: After The Exile's Journey, what do you think will happen in The Final Battle? What will happen to Storm? The Wild Pack? Sweet and Lucky's leadership? etc

      Bella and Arrow might return and Breeze will probably get killed.

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    • It is though, not very likely Bella and Arrow return

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    • Also please check out the story on my blog (I know I already said this, but I updated it) I want to know what you think of it. You can also tell me how to improve it in the comments. Thanks

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    • I'm almost certain Bella and Arrow will turn up, along with their pups.

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    • They will turn up, I just don't know if they will join wild pack again if they find out about breeze. I really hope everyone who can (sadly, Whisper and Bruno can't) rejoins the Wild Pack. I actually kind of hope Sweet gets killed by Breeze, or something like that. I don't like Sweet much, but I do like Lucky, so that is why I am always saying I want him to return to his old personality.

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    • I doubt that Bella and Arrow would rejoin the Pack, seeing the injustice they faced, and I think Rake and his Pack will actually function well without the Wild Pack.

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    • Yea, I know, but I still hate how the gathering darkness ruined Lucky and Sweet. It ruined the wild pack. But Storm is always righteous. This makes it a little annoying.

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    • Of course Breeze in the story ruined it all. Darn it Breeze really?

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    • I don't know, Breeze helped move the storyline forward. In fact, I was thinking exactly how Storm was up until RMR. I thought she was always nice and suspected Bruno. But then she started being overly kind and I was suspicious. And when Bruno died, Breeze was still 'attacked' so I knew it couldn't be him, especially when he apologized and seemed so sincere.

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    • I feel like I say this a lot, but I suspected Breeze from the beginning when she was out talking to Moon the night Whisper died. I knew it wasn't Storm, I refused to believe it was Moon, Snap or Lucky, and honestly I didn't like Breeze enough yet to become so attached that I'd never suspect her, like the others. To me at that point she was just "one of Terror's old Packmates." I couldn't hardly distinguish her from Woody, Rake, Whisper, Chase or Ruff. I'd only read the first two books when I found this wiki, and I found a thread talking about the traitor. And almost no one brought up Breeze. I proposed my theory, and after reading Into the Shadows and Red Moon Rising was when I really started supporting the theory.

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    • Storm-in-Rain wrote: I don't know, Breeze helped move the storyline forward. In fact, I was thinking exactly how Storm was up until RMR. I thought she was always nice and suspected Bruno. But then she started being overly kind and I was suspicious. And when Bruno died, Breeze was still 'attacked' so I knew it couldn't be him, especially when he apologized and seemed so sincere.

      I agree, she was just to nice. When I said Breeze ruined it all, she made the storyline better, but she ruined the pack

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    • @Applebaby12 I updated the story I am writing on my blog, thanks for the advice. Anyone else is invited to come read it.

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    • I also never thought Bruno was the traitor, I always suspected Chase or Breeze.

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    • Bruno can be unexpected at times, when he helped the Half-Wolf try to hurt Lucky, but I didnt think he would be the type to kill smaller dogs and betray the pack

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    • I always thought Thorn or Beetle would be the traitor, because they wrer both acting weird.

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    • Twilight the Sandwing-Nightwing wrote:
      Bruno can be unexpected at times, when he helped the Half-Wolf try to hurt Lucky, but I didnt think he would be the type to kill smaller dogs and betray the pack

      I don't remember that.

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    • At the beginning of Darkness Falls, when Lucky is going to be scarred.

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    • Yeah, that was weird. I mean Lucky risked his life to spy for them and that's how they repay him.

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    • But of course, he should not have done that in the first place.

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    • Storm-in-Rain wrote:
      At the beginning of Darkness Falls, when Lucky is going to be scarred.

      Okay now I remember.

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    • Nickthe1st wrote:
      Yeah, that was weird. I mean Lucky risked his life to spy for them and that's how they repay him.

      Now that I remember that Bruno is kinda harsh. Oh, also remember when Storm let the fox go Lucky had the idea to scar her for life! I mean that was them ultimate sign of change for me. The old Lucky would've never done that. Also in the first series didn't Lucky always think that Storm had such a hard life and wanted to make it better? I mean one moment he's giving her a naming ceremony and the next he has the idea to scar Storm for life! I can't believe Lucky would take an idea after the cruel half-wolf. Now that I think about it he's starting to become like the half-wolf!

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    • Sorry this isn't on topic but HOW do you guys get those pictures for your little squares!

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    • It's on your profile. You click the avatar on the top left, next to where you've put your name and information. From there, you can either choose an image from the given pictures or upload one yourself, as long as it is titled as Wolfy10personal

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    • Thanks!

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    • No problem!

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    • I feel that Bella and Arrow will come back with their pups to the Wild Pack, as they said they would. Breeze would keep trying to listen to Breeze and not Storm. I hope Storm decides to get an army and attack Breeze, and when Lucky is trying to fight off the army Arrow and Bella arrive, and , seeing his nephews, Lucky realizes that what he's done had been wrong all along, and helps Storm kill Breeze. The book ends with Sweet and Lucky demoted, I HOPE TWITCH DAISY AND SUNSHINE JOINS ARROW AND BELLA'S PACK, ANYWAYS SO MORE DOGS JOIN THEIR BACK, and Sweet and Lucky will start to realize what theyve done to the pack, and how they've killed it. 

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    • I hope Sunshine would join Bella and Arrow. She gets nothing out of living with Lucky and Sweet.

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    • Yeah i agree

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    • I hate the gathering darkness. The only reason I am reading it is because I can't give up hope on Survivors. It ruined almost every character. It is so sad to think what happened to every single dog. I think Lucky and Sweet are under so much pressure, that they seem to be going insane and not thinking right. I hope that if Breeze is defeated, you will see a change for the better in every dog.

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    • Twilight the Sandwing-Nightwing wrote: I feel that Bella and Arrow will come back with their pups to the Wild Pack, as they said they would. Breeze would keep trying to listen to Breeze and not Storm. I hope Storm decides to get an army and attack Breeze, and when Lucky is trying to fight off the army Arrow and Bella arrive, and , seeing his nephews, Lucky realizes that what he's done had been wrong all along, and helps Storm kill Breeze. The book ends with Sweet and Lucky demoted, I HOPE TWITCH DAISY AND SUNSHINE JOINS ARROW AND BELLA'S PACK, ANYWAYS SO MORE DOGS JOIN THEIR BACK, and Sweet and Lucky will start to realize what theyve done to the pack, and how they've killed it. 

      Uh... Actually Breeze killed the pack.

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    • I still hope something happens that fixes every character. Lucky needs the most fixing. Come on Erins, you need to fix them. But still, why did Lucky have to. change in the first place?!

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    • The only problem with Sweet and Lucky getting demoted, in my opinion, is that other then Twitch, no dog really deserves the title of Alpha. Some of you probably disagree with me, but that is how I see it.

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    • Also, if Storm attacks Breeze, and Lucky still doesn't know she is the traitor, then he would have to defend her. My idea for how Breeze is discovered is a story on my blog.

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    • Go and check it out.

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    • I think Storm should challenge Sweet to a battle for alpha, and if she wins she could try to prove Breeze guilty and some packmates might believe her or some might just have to obey her 'cause she's alpha. Then Sweet will see what a jerk she's has been being. I mean Sweet's not even looking for evidence she's just guessing who's guilty and putting them in prison. Come on Lucky quit being a wimp and help Sweet do the right thing!!! Lucky's probably just scared of his mate.(:

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    • Wait a second... Is Lucky POISONED???!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • What do you mean?

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    • Storm-in-Rain wrote:
      What do you mean?

      I mean has Breeze poisoned him??

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    • I don't even know how to feel about him. I absolutely adored his story with Calamity, but Moon suffered so much more and she never acted as he did.

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    • Dog? yeah I thought he was a little harsh but his story.

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    • I don't think she's poisoned him. What leads you to believe that?

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    • Well Lucky's just been acting really weird I mean think about TEC through SOD Lucky was a good dog always caring for others. But NOW he's just acting really weird and the conclusion i've came is that Breeze poisoned Lucky.

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    • Hey guys check out my blog I just posted a story about what I think will happen.

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    • Nickthe1st wrote:
      Go and check it out.

      I saw your blog story I left a comment saying it was awesome.

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    • Thanks! I will check out yours. And yeah! Great idea! Maybe Breeze did something to Lucky. Like some kind of berry she hid in his food somehow and it kind of drugged him or something. Just an idea.

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    • Nice. Thanks!

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    • No problem. I updated my story and started the new story continuing the old one. Go check it out.

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    • I thought about the poisoned theory, but I've come to realize that, how can Breeze poison Lucky, but not anyone else. If Breeze had the poison to do so, why hasnt she poisoned Sunshine, Daisy, Twitch, and all other members of the Wild Pack that believes Storm is innocent? Up to TEJ, Breeze hasn't stopped, taking opportunities to hurt the pack (Ex: Taking the rare chance of Whisper all by himself out of camp to kill him) and (Finding the lone-fox pup wandering away from his home and killing him and bringing him to the Wild Pack den area). She is  the type of dog to strike at will, and whenever the chances are right. She DEFINITELY WILL NOT leave Daisy and Twitch unpoisoned for the duration of Storm's absence. That's why I don't think Breeze has the poison to do so. It's just because since Breeze is SMART and CRAFTY, she knows how to sneak around the camp and try to hurt dogs. The change in Lucky and Sweet's character didn't help either. 

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    • She is always watching the pups so there are a lot of opportunities to poison Lucky. She might have had very little poison and gave it to Lucky because she knew Sweet would listen to him. The two leaders are the most important for her to control. Or maybe Lucky is sick from the stress and Bella leaving. Because of that he isn't thinking right. I just don't want to blame Lucky for his actions. It is not Lucky. He needs to change.

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    • Well personally I think Breeze poisoned Lucky. Because he's not acting like Lucky. But you could be right about him being sick from all the stress.

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    • Both are possible, I started the new story continuing the old one. Sorry if I keep saying this, I just want to know if people want me to continue it.

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    • I read the other story. And yes please continue it.

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    • @Wolfy10 I continued it. Thanks for your support!

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    • Now That you mention the pups and the connections, It just might be it. But I just don't know where she would get the poison, and THIS TYPE OF SPECIFIC POISON. The poison must be specific enough to: Not harm the dogs in any way, easy to carry around, and it has TO SPECIFICALLY BE FOR BEING RELUCTANT. I dont think we humans have this type of poison, then how would dogs get it.

      SO i've decided to list down Lucky and Sweets personalities before and after SOD. 

      Lucky Before SOD: Careing, Will do everything to ensure Storm's safety, Was kinda like Storm's foster father

      Sweet Before SOD: Considerate, even tho not Alpha, make orders when nessesary, helped will all sort of stuff

      Lucky after SOD, DON (Dead of Night): All actions controlled by fear, very stressed, can get scared at times, seperated from Storm and began to despise him and suspecting Storm. 

      Sweet after Dead Of Night: Cares nothing other than pups, even tho the pups are okay at times. Starting to lose control of Pack. VERY STRESSED by Pack's arguments, however doesn't do anything about it. Only looks at things in the plain view, but doesnt deeply think, investigate about things (Ex: Moon stealing food: I dont think she stole to food, honestly)



      I dont want Lucky and Sweet to be Alpha+Beta anything, REALLY BADLY. But srsly there is no dog in he pack that deserves the rank other than Twitch. Maybe Twitch, Daisy and Sunshine can join Arrow's pack and leave the WIld Pack? 

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    • I think In TFB, Arrow and Bella will appear after 10 days and Lucky will be happy to see them. When Arrow and Bella sees Storm captive, they protest which leads to an argument and eventually Sweet will call off the gathering and tell everyone to get back to their jobs. 

      Later, Breeze is found carrying rotten food by Arrow, who confronts him. Arrow reveals to her that he knows she is the traitor-dog, with Breeze saying that she never targeted him, and that all she wanted to do was to avenge his Alpha, Terror. Enraged with anger, Arrow says that he will never let her get away with this, but Breeze quickly runs away, run through Bushes, getting cuts, and goes back to the pack, saying that Arrow attacked him. 

      Breeze is believed by many including Sweet and Lucky, and Sweet calls a meeting, claiming the current situation. Sweet tells the Wild Pack to vote for Storm/Arrows release, the ability to stay in the Wild Pack, or kill them. Breeze is outnumbered by Bella, Mickey, Daisy, Twitch, Sunshine on letting Storm, Arrow stay in the pack, and Moon is starting to doubt Breeze. 

      That Night, Moon has a dream, on Breeze. She thinks about his cuts, and his claim that Arrow had attacked him. She suddenly realized that if Arrow attacked her, the cuts, gashes would be deeper, and not just some scrapes. She wonders why she's the only one that noticed, and decides to tell everyone the next day. 



      The next day, morning, Sweet calls a meeting, and talks about the situation and who the traitor-dog might be. Moon starts off the conversation by telling everyone that Breezes' cuts were just scrapes, probably from branches or bushes, and that Arrows claws and teeth would've caused more damage to Breeze. After this realization, more people begin to realize that Breeze just might be the bad dog

      Breeze is lying in bed that night, thinking about how to decept the pack. She looks at her scrapes, then at her tail, which never really healed completely, and then thinks about the pack. In the middle of the night, she decides to leave the pack, since it was too risky to stay, as the pack would realize she was the traitor dog the next day. Her leave was inturrupted by Daisy, who notices her and asks her why she was out so dark. Breeze lies and say that she needed to take a walk, and that she'll be going back to camp. After this Daisy pretty much can conclude that Breeze IS the traitor-dog. 

      The next day, some order comes back in the Wild Pack, Bella's pups are playing with Sweet's pups, and hunting and patrolling had gone fine. And Breeze was doing her job efficiently, with no incidents. That night, when they howl to the moon. Sweet brings up the topic, and how that day was a good day, but it was an accident as dogs start quabbling and eventually Sweet gives up and walks back to her den, by herself

      That night, Breeze decides to sneak away, and she does successfully. She decides to get some help, so she goes to the direction of the Fierce Dogs' and where they went at the end of SOD. 

      The next day, the pack is alarmed at Breeze's absence, with Sweet and Lucky slowly concluding that Breeze was the traitor-dog all along. It was normal until mid-day, when Breeze brings her army of Fierce Dogs, and THE FINAL BATTLE begins. 

      The Wild Pack fights Breeze and the fierce dogs, with some fierce dogs running away, but there were still enough to beat the Wild Pack. Breeze and Storm start fighting, with both of them not backing down. Suddenly a fierce dog injures Storm, and Storm goes back into the den. She was about to die when Peaceful and Thoughtful arrives, and tends Storm, while the Wild pack is surprised at the Wolves' arrival, they decided that they needed all the help they could get, so they accepts Thoughtful's help. In the middle of the fight, Thoughtful leaves, leaving the WIld Pack injured and wounded. But Just as the fierce dogs were about to kill off the Wild Pack, Thoughtful arrives, this time with the whole wolves pack, and they fight and send all the fierce dogs either running away or dead. Storm is healed by Peaceful, and, kills Breeze, ending THE FINAL BATTLE

      The Wild Pack thanks the wolves, Peaceful and Thoughtful's help. The Wolves had decided that they didnt want to be enemies to dogs anymore, and because they were so related, decided to help them. Sweet and Lucky also thanks Arrow and Bella, and Storm, for proving that Breeze was the bad dog. Daisy, Twitch and Sunshine decide to Join Arrow's pack, with Sweet finally saying that they should all be a pack together again. Sweet admitted that she had been a bad leader and wasn't considerate of the pack's issues and hopes the pack could give her another chance. Everyone, deciding to give her 1 more chance, agrees. Lucky announces to the pack that he wasn't a good Beta, and never was, so he decided to Promote Twitch to Beta, and him to Patrol/Hunter. Storm is now Third Dog, to her surprise. Just when the wolves decide to head back beyond the lighthouse, Sweet calls them in, and tells them that they should do a final howl, and, when the sun had just gone out and the moon just rising, the dogs' pack and wolves' pack howl together, and for THE GREAT HOWL OF PEACE. 



      The Wolves' pack leaves after, and after some discussion and thoughts, the dogs go to sleep, and it ends the Survivors series. 

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    • Um... At the start you keep calling Breeze a he. Other the that, good idea. I personally don't agree with it. If you want to know what I think, check out my blog stories.

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    • I like the idea of Breeze de-evolving like that, by making the mistake of trying to disguise cuts from tree branches as real wounds made by a dog. However, some of the scenes wouldn't make sense in the way you described them, since it'd be from Storm's point of view. So we wouldn't actually see Breeze sneaking out and Daisy confronting herm but Daisy could mention to Storm that she saw Breeze out late at night.

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    • Yeah, that is true. I still really hope TFB is NOT like that. Sorry if I'm being rude, I just don't like that idea.

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    • I know most of you will disagree, but I will say it. I am still a Lucky fan. Nothing will change that. I still have hopes to see Lucky kind again. But if it continued into the gathering darkness from Lucky's point of view, no one would hate him so much. It is just because you see it from Storm's point of view, you hate him so bad. Also, if you saw it from his position, then you would know why he decides those things.

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    • Oh, and the wolves will not help Storm or any other dog.

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    • I think Thoughtful might help.

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    • Thoughtful might but not the whole pack.

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    • I don't mean to sound rude either, because everyone has their own opinions. But to me, and a good majority of the fanbase, Lucky has become such an unlikable character. It's obvious what his reasons and motivations are: fear. He's scared of having a traitor, so he denies it. He's scared of the Pack turning against him, so he chooses to call Storm and Arrow traitors to appease them. In my opinion, he never was and never will be meant to be a Beta or Alpha. To call him similar to the Half-Wolf or even worse than him is a stretch, of course. But like in the original series, when he accused Mulch of eating prey to save his own skin, he's a coward. It's his character, and it's what made him interesting in the first series, because he has flaws and he suffered consequences from  those flaws. Now it's annoying. Nothing happens when he allows Bella and Arrow to be driven from the Pack. No harm comes to him when he goes along with Moon stealing prey, even if he knew she didn't. And even in the original series, he chose favorites. A lot. He chose Mulch to frame for stealing prey because he disliked him the most. If Daisy or Sunshine- two of his favorites- had been framed for stealing prey, he wouldn't have let Sweet punish them nearly as badly, if even at all. Most likely he'd believe either of them in front of the Pack, insisting they'd never steal prey. He just doesn't care about all of the dogs equally. Sweet isn't very good, either. But I don't think she's done nearly as much harm as Lucky. Once her pups are named, most likely she'll obsess over them less and maybe make amends. But I don't see Lucky ever resuming his role as Beta. He's not right for the position in my eyes.

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    • Lucky was approved as a choice for Beta by the dogs because he seemed to agree with them when in reality he was doing everything he could to please the crowd. He does what’s best for him. That’s what beeing a lone-dog taught him.

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    • I really hope Sweet's pup gets named at the end of The Final Battle, because I think they're old enough, arent they? Storm got her name after 2 1/2 books, and Moon's got theirs after 3 1/2 (Sweet's journey they were born, Empty CIty, Hidden Enemy, Darkness Falls. Sweet's Pups have lived for 2 1/2 books up to The Exiles journey. I really want them to get their names!!!

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    • Sweet's pups will definitely be ready by the end of TFB. In TEJ they were nearly grown. Storm mentions how much bigger they are, and that they're nearly ready for their naming.

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    • And I agree with Apple. Lucky's actions are controlled by fear: That's his character. In the first series, it was interesting, as, like Apple said, suffered consequences for his actions. But In The Gathering Darkness, he's the Beta of the pack, and he doesn't act liike it. He did nothing to stop Arrow, Bella, and Storm, from leaving the pack. Linking to Storm-in-Rain's comment, I agree, because although everyone was happy and agreed with him to be Beta, he was really doing everything to make the pack like him, and I think currently that is the case. He doesn't want packmates to despise him, so he lets the majority of the pack have their way. If he really wanted Arrow, Bella and Storm to stay, he should've done more, but he was scared that if he tried to defend them, his packmates would start to dislike him. Same goes for Moon stealing prey: He had no problem with Sweet giving Moon that punishment, and didn't dig deeper and extract clues.  I SWEAR THAT if it was Micky, Daisy or Sunshine that  got framed, he would do EVERYTHING TO DEFEND THEM. This is another problem with Lucky, he picks favourites. I think that currently Breeze is one of Lucky's favourites, because of how she "takes care" of the pups. This is why Lucky wouldn't listen to Storm, he only listens to his favourites, and doesnt care about anyone else. If he did listen and care, he should've talked to Twitch, Daisy and Sunshine and discuss about the traitor-dog and Storm. 

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    • I seriously dont want Lucky to resume as Beta, he's just......he does everything a Beta or Alpha shouldn't do. 

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    • Um... All of the dogs that left did so by their own free will. Lucky couldn't force them to stay. He did try to stop all the arguing of who was the traitor. But it all comes down to the authors. I believe that they ruined everything I liked about Lucky. They just ruined his character along with several others. Only they can decide what will happen in TFB.

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    • Hey everyone! I finished the third (known as Will it Survive?) part of my story.

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    • The authors didn't ruin Lucky. They developed his character to give the reader some conflicted feelings.

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    • Well the  authors kinda ruined Lucky. Well that's what I think personally

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    • I just posted another blog story about what I think happened after Storm left. Go check it out!

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    • Okay! Look on my blog to, I finished my third part of my story and will write the fourth soon.

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    • I will!

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    • I have two explainations for Lucky acting this way



      1. He is too stressed on his pups, and his roles as Beta, and is struggling to balance a life of being a father-dog and being the Pack's Beta

      2. The authors wanted him to change his ways so they kinda changed his personality

      Personally, I think Lucky would've done a better job if he only had one job, either as father-dog of 4 or Beta. I think, if his actions are really of stress, he should take time to raise the pups and let another dog, perhaps Twitch, be Beta until the pups can take care of themselves. Because currently, with Lucky acting like the way he is, he just can't go on anymore being Beta. 

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    • I agree with that. He should relax and calm down a bit before continuing beta.

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    • Your right. Lucky should calm down a little. Maybe he'll turn normal again.

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    • Exactly. By the way, how old is everyone? Just curious.

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    • I've said it before, but I'm 16, a junior in high school

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    • 15

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    • almost 14))

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    • I am 14

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    • I'm in upper grades Elemantry Shool. (10)

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    • Ok

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    • What is everyone's favorite book?

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    • I love Survivors, obviously, but recently I've been addicted to the Keeper of the Lost Cities series. Specifically I enjoyed the first book and Lodestar, and Exile))

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    • Survivors and Wings Of Fire 

      Fav Survivor Book: LOL I DONT KNOW I like SOD, TEJ, DF, AND TEL

      Fav WOF book: OMG LMAO OK LETS SEE....moon rising, the lost heir, hidden kingdom, and the lost continent

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    • I think my favorite first series Survivors book is DF. There was always something about it, when I read it years back. I loved Lick, I loved that Lucky was finally in the Wild Pack, and the setting was just pleasant for me. Even re-reading it nowadays I love it. Though SoD is my second favorite (and TBP is a close third)

      As for the second series, I really liked TEJ of course. In fact, all of the newest series' books have been really good, so none of them stand out in particular. Except RMR. That was easily the most emotional book for me. It was sad, but I think I'd have to call it my favorite,

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    • SOD is my favorite book in survivors, but I also like the series accelerati trilogy and hundred cupboards.

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    • If I like TFB, then that means I have seen some change for the better in Lucky.

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    • And Sweet too.

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    • I also like DF, but I actually didn't like TEJ that much. It was good, just not the best.

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    • I think my favorite series is Survivors and my favorite Survivors book is TEL. That could change with TFB though. But for now it's TEL.

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    • Hey guys this is off topic but do any if you know about the Survivors series called Survivor Dogs. It's in German i'm using google translate but the names are completely diffrent. It's the same I think but with differnt names and in German. If  any of you know anything about please tell me because I am very confused!

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    • I've seen some of the covers in the gallery, but I just assumed it was just a German version. Some of the dogs look different, but I guess that's just their own country's preferences.

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    • But when I used google translate the names were different too!

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    • lol idk

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    • I saw pictures of the cover too, but I don't know anything about it.

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    • So I haven’t been on here in a while, but my personal favorites are probably TEL and TEJ.

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    • Same!!

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    • I like TEL also! That's such a good one.

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    • One of my favorite parts in TEL is when Storm and Fang battle in the Trial of Rage. Also when the Wild Pack battle the Fierce Dogs near the lighthouse.

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    • I think my favorite part was when Alpha "died," and the Pack was finally free of that tyrant.

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    • I always wondered why he was so mean

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    • I think it has something to do with his life in the wolf pack. The other wolfs were so mean and downgraded him a lot.

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    • I read Alpha's Tale, and it made me kinda feel sympathetic towards him. He was bullied and teased in the Wolf Pack because he was half-dog, which made me feel bad for him. Im not saying I like him, but just that after reading Alpha's Tale, after reading his story, challenges, experiences, I kinda feel a little sad for him. 

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    • I’m gonna be completely honest, but Alpha is one of my favorite characters. I read Alphas Tale and felt bad for him. I mean, unlike a lot of the dogs, he had a pretty good reason for being rude. He lost everyone he loved (Graceful and Calamity, Quick), the wolf pack abandoned him, and he was constantly teased whether by the wolves or the Longpaw Fang Pack.

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    • To be honest I don't know how to feel about him. I was sad that his life wasn't very good. But that doesn't mean he should take it out on other dogs.

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    • I think the wolf pack and the fierce-dogs are partially to blame, but he made his own choices and he is responsible for his actions.

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    • Yeah. 

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    • True, all of this is true. He had a bad early life, but he is responsible for all of his actions. No one can truly force someone to do something.

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    • Well he wasn't actually responsible for GETTING bullied, or getting captured by the Fierce Dogs. I guess after all hes been thru he realized that he needed to be mean, tough, and menacing to survive. 

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    • Yea...but I just thought of something. What Lucky never Beta and Sweet stayed Beta with the Half wolf? Would she have his pups? Would they be mates?

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    • I don't think so. 

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    • She didn't really seem that intrested in him.

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    • No, probably not.

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    • Oh, alright

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    • Ok, theory time people! So basically on every cover for The Gathering Darkness, the Golden deer is there. At first I didn’t think it was important, but now that I think about it...what if Storm catches the golden deer while she’s still considered a hostage to the Wild Pack? She could’ve snuck out during the night, and caught it, and that may have been her ticket to freedom and proving the traitor is Breeze. Thoughts?

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    • I think that’s a good theory. I’ve never thought about it! If she catches the golden deer, maybe she’ll prove her innocence and purity.

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    • The Golden Deer. Hmm...

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    • I like that idea! She could catch it secretly and bring it to the Wild Pack. She could say that the Wind-Dogs would not have let her catch it if she was the traitor and wouldn't if she was accusing a innocent dog of being the traitor.

      Another idea would be if Lucky or Sweet ask the spirit dogs if Storm is innocent and then they catch the golden deer. That would work too.

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    • Yea. That kinda now sprouts an idea of a short story of something like that...

      Also, does anyone think we’ll be getting a third arc? I personally hope we do, as it is slowly climbing its way to fame like Warriors did. But it’s also such a good series, and I’d love it if the third series was from one of Sweet’s pups or Bella’s pups.

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    • Well I don't want Survivors to drag on like Warriors did. But a 3rd arc would be good!

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    • I doubt it there will be a third arc, but I hope there will be!

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    • It’s been confirmed that this is indeed the last book, but there may be some sort of short novels like Moon’s Choice.

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    • I hope there will be a novella about Arrow!

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    • Me too. He’s a very interesting character.

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    • Honestly, I have such a long list for dogs who deserve a novella: Morningstar Arrow Martha Daisy Whisper Terror Blade Twitch Fiery And then I guess Thoughtful and Peaceful too, but since they’ve only been in one book, I doubt we’d get one.

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    • All those are good. I don't think Fiery will get one though. Because kinda already know a little about his past. Like in Moons Choice and at the end of Alphas Tale.

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    • Yea, in my opinion he’s like a father to everyone, hence the reason why I think he deserves one

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    • True. I hope for novels. But I did hear multiple books and movies that say it will be the final book but then it is not. We will probably find out at the end of the book. They might make a official ending or a possible continuation.

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    • Yeah. 

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    • If they do continue it, it’ll probably either be in novella form, or like field guides. Although if we get another cliffhanger then I swear I will screech with happiness until I can’t ever talk again

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    • 😉

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    • I know this is late, seeing as you all seem to have been doing this for while; however, I am going to have to ask you all to stop replying to this thread because this is not the appropriate forum. This forum is for Survivors wiki news only, not for discussing the books. Next time please use the Fun and Games forum for threads like this.

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    • I want a novella about Arrow!!!

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    • Not sure if you read my reply before saying that, but I suggest you all make a new thread in the Fun and Games forum before I delete this one.

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    • Sorry about that ;) Good to see you on the Wiki again.

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    • OH okay

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    • Wait then what are we supposed to talk about here? All we've talked about are the books, TFB, and characters and Survivors novellas. What ARE we supposed to chat about here. 

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    • OK SO EVERYONE I'VE CREATED A NEW DISCUSSION UNDER "FUN AND GAMES" BOARD. JUST GO TO FORUMS, AND SCROLL DOWN TO FUN AND GAMES, AND CHOOSE THE ONE THAT SAYS "THE FINAL BATTLE DISCUSSIONS". HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE!!!!!



      oh and btw the creator of this wiki wanted us to move our discussions and talks over there so yah

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    • Ah, I hadn't even realized what forum this was on.

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    • A FANDOM user
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